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Death of a teenager at a limp bizkit show

Fred Durst in Stance magazine

Critics


TEENAGER DIED AT A LIMP SHOW


A teenager suffered a heart attack and about 30 fans were hurt in the mosh pit during Limp Bizkit's performance at the Sydney stop of Australia's Big Day Out festival on Friday, prompting the band to pull out of the tour.

The Sydney Morning Herald reported that the 18-year-old woman was clinically dead when security pulled her out of the pit near the stage at Sydney RAS Showgrounds shortly after the first song of Limp Bizkit's set.

The teen, who was not identified in the local report, was resuscitated after having oxygen pumped into her lungs and receiving an adrenaline shot from emergency medical technicians backstage, the Morning Herald reported. She was taken to Concorde Hospital in Sydney and remains under observation there.

Six others reportedly were treated at Concorde Hospital for minor injuries, while up to 30 fans were treated at the festival's medical tents, which one witness described as "a war scene," according to accounts in the newspaper and the Australian Associated Press.

The melee began as some members of the 55,000-person crowd surged to the front of the stage while Limp Bizkit played. The band stopped the show for 20 minutes, and frontman Fred Durst asked the crowd to calm down and "chill out" as the heart-attack victim was pulled out of the pit.

In a statement issued late Friday, the rock group said it wanted to immediately stop the show, but was warned by local police officials that that might cause a riot.

The band continued playing, but stopped several times to calm the crowd as local fire marshals sprayed water on the audience in what organizers said was an attempt to reduce "the temperature and volatility of the situation." Afterward, Limp Bizkit pulled out of the three remaining Big Day Out concerts in Melbourne (scheduled for Sunday), Adelaide (February 2) and Perth (February 5) over concerns about the "cavalier attitude toward fan safety by festival organizers." "We'd like to express tremendous sorrow over the injuries suffered by our fans during the Big Day Out concert," Limp Bizkit said in the statement. "We pray for the life of the heart attack victim." The band said it alerted the promoter, Creative Entertainment of Australia, about crowd-safety issues after the first Big Day Out show in Auckland, New Zealand, on January 19, and again after the second concert in Gold Coast, Australia, on January 21.

Limp Bizkit requested additional security and a T-style barricade, but said it was rebuffed by Big Day Out co-promoter Vivian Lees, even after the band threatened to leave the tour following the Gold Coast show.

"We basically begged this guy to increase the security measures," Durst said in the statement, "and were told he has been doing the event for 10 years and that he knows what he's doing and to leave him alone." "We tried to explain that crowds are different from 10, or even three years ago," said Jeff Kwantinetz of Limp Bizkit's management company, The Firm. "We were ultimately frustrated by his response." Big Day Out organizers initially commended Limp Bizkit for their "full cooperation ... through this difficult situation and their commitment to the safety of their audience," but in a later statement the organizers expressed "relief at the departure of Limp Bizkit." "The Big Day Out has a principal commitment to crowd safety and security of all patrons," the organizers said. "The measures proposed by Limp Bizkit were substantial, untested and radical changes to the existing structures and procedures in place for the show as understood by the Australian safety authorities, including the police and planning bodies." Organizers initially announced they would replace Limp Bizkit by elevating an Aussie group, Powderfinger, to the headlining slot for the three remaining shows, but have instead decided to leave the lineup as is, with the bands playing later than originally scheduled. German metal band Rammstein will now serve as Big Day Out's closing act. Limp Bizkit said they plan to return to Australia and "play for our fans under our own terms and with proper safety and security." The Big Day Out incident is the latest in a string mosh pit violence over the past two years.

In June, nine people died as a result of a stampede at the Roskilde festival in Copenhagen, Denmark, while Pearl Jam performed (see "Pearl Jam Performance Struck By Tragedy").

At Woodstock '99 in Rome, New York, organizers criticized Limp Bizkit for encouraging an unruly audience to tear up portions of the stage setup during their performance, causing security to delay the show some 45 minutes prior to Rage Against the Machine's set. "Everybody was trying to pinpoint [the blame] on us," Durst told MTV News later that year. The band responded with the video for "Re-Arranged," which Durst said "is about being persecuted for something you're not guilty of." (see "Limp Bizkit To Address Woodstock Aftermath In New Video") Crowd safety issues were also partially responsible for Glastonbury Festival organizers' decision to suspend this year's edition of the U.K. festival in order to develop strategies for maintaining control over the 100,000 that annually attend the concert (see "Glastonbury Festival Taking Year Off To Deal With Crowds").





FRED DURST IN STANCE MAGAZINE


Writer:
There's a strip of  words in a Smashing Pumpkins song that says "Latley I just can't seem to belive…" and than it rolls on with the rest of the song , but I couldn't tell you what those words are because the first part was allways so polgnant to me . I looked in a CD jacket at the lyrics so I could put the most of the verse in this intro , but the only words I found myself still caring about were these seven "Latley I just can't seem to belive" . That's how I felt when I left Fred Durst's house after my interview with him .
I took some Limp Bizkit stuff up on the internet the night before this interview , to find out what not to do , and to learn anything I could about Fred . What I found in all of the articles was that I've never really heard Fred's voice . I never read anything that was just his words .
Following this intro is a concentrated version of the three-our conversation I had with Fred . I left out my questions because our conversation was more like , well , a coversation , except I recorded it . I've pieced it all to present to you why these seven little words from a Smashing Pumpkins song kept playing inside my mind . It's not that I don't belive him and what he said to me , actually is quite the opposite . I started to disbelive what I had heard or read about him as well as the preconcelved notions I had prior to meeting him . I did this so you , possibly for the first time , can just hear what Fred has to say in his own words . I assure you ---- all the words are his .
To give you a little scene setting , he has a nice house with a dog named Bizkit , a room full of computers , a couple people around to help , and furniture that literally was being deliverd when I got there because he'd  just moved his . Fred has a lot of awards that haven't been hang  yet and a refrigerator that is well stocked . Not bad for a guy who halls from Gastonia , North Carolina . Not bad for a guy who's going to explain why he is the way he is .

Fred:
Got it?

…I definitley think I took a third person [point of view] my whole life . I stood back and just absorbed every thing . I just felt I was one of  the only people that really got it--- and a couple of my skate buddies .
…You're sort of level and you get it , or you just don't get it and you go trough life not getting it , and nothing you can learn will help you to get it . I just get the common-man understanding . I get it . I see things more clearly that way .
…The reason I stood back and absorbed everything is because I was born with something that made me never a follower, man . I'm not a trendsetter , but I think that , I don't know , man… sommething just happend to me when I was really young .

How it started.

…I went to Florida to visit my cousin Billy . We had to pick him up at Kona Skatepark . I was a young kid . I mean young . It was right when the park was built , 70's , and I'm just like , "Oh my god!" . I couldn't belive this place , and the pach , and the everything , man . I instantly became one-houndred-thousand-percent obsessed . Addicted . I got a board… I has a huge Tony Hawk fan from the first Bones video---and Steve Caballeno . They were so little and I was so little , and I was like "I can f-kin' do this shit !"

Even Fred's got a Tony Hawk story.

They used to have a contest called Savannah Slamma . So I went to one and I happend to stumble into one skate session . I'm standing there , and it's Neil Blender , Tony Hawk , Mark Gonzales , John Lucero , and I'm going "Holy shit!" it was just a fun f-k-around session , silly wallriders and stuff .
These guys were the kings to me . They went in their hotel , and here's how I met Tony Hawk . Domino's---they ordered pizza . I sat outside the hotel the whole time just bugging out . So the Domino's guy came . I paid him 50 bucks to let me wear his hat and take the pizza to the room . Dude , I f-kin' went in there and I f-ked up bad . I walked at the door and I was bugging , I was shaking , and I didn't know what to say and he [Tony] stood up , and there were like five guys in his room … I dropped the f-kin' pizza out of the box on the floor . He went to grabb it and he didn't have it , so I grabbed it and let go of it and it sort of fell  , and I was like "Ohh" . I don't know if he knew that something was up , but I didn't even ask for the money and I left .
…So I told Tony Hawk about that---we did some MTV sports thing , and I told him about it . I don't know if he was paying attention , but he was like "Oh , that's cool" . I don't know if he remembered or realized how significant that is for me , to be were I am now ,  to still think that he's a amazing skater .

Bad media , jock rock and Harry .

…I see media that says "Fred Durst with this make testosterone music , must have been the bully in high school that beat everybody up ."
  I'm going "You're so f-kin' wrong , man . It's totally the opposite."
  The critics who want to hate us because they can't figure out what genre this is , they say "Oh , the nookie guy , killer vocabulary , what a f-kin' mook . He's a rock mook . This dumbass , this jock rock " . That's what they call it , and I'm going "Man , if I could just f-kin' make you go back in time , you could see every thing , Dude" . I'm so not jock rock . I'm anti-jock rock . I'm not anti-jock . I'm anti-MTV jams compilations . I'm anti-footbal players getting pumped up to my f-kin' music , because I wasn't part of that world .
I've run into people , like when we'd play North Carolina , or Jacksonville , both places I've spent a good amount of time in . I've seen people that hated me , that wanted to kill me for no reason other than I'm a skater , that I'm  weird . Like this guy Harry in high school stalked me , man . This bigger , older guy , for no reason , this jock Dude . He and his buddy had this thing for me , they wanted to kill me .
When I was just in high school , I don't know how it happend , but it was a cool thing for me and a couple of my weirder guys to meet at a footbal game . I don't know why . I've tried to think why that was , but we met . We were skaters , we dressed different--- we wear trench coats , we had Dead Kennedy's T-shirts , we were doeing our thing--- but for some reason we went there . We were cool with being the f-kin' hated losers . I remember just being tortured , sometimes having to leave because these guys were going to f-kin' kill us .
I've had the same guys come up to me "Dude, Fred , man , f-kin' Limp Bizkit's the shit"
And I just go "Do you not listen to the lyrics ? I'm speaking out , comming out of my shell in front of the microphone beacuse of what you've done to me . I'm this person because of this"
I have guys that come up to me , meathead drunk guys "Hey ,man , yo ,yo , come over here , man . Ouh Limp bizkit , man , Limp Bizkit" You're the guy I hated my whole life , with the Bad Boy Club--- I hated you .
I'm thinking "You're why I do this man . I hate you" I don't hate anyone , but I think to myself this is not it . I see people like that , it's just like wiping my ass and shaking their hand because it's such a killer feeling to know that something in your life is so f-ked up that you were this person , and now your that person listening to my music and being this guy.

From zero to hero

…But what's great is I went through life as an underdog , or feeling like one . Being an outcast , being forced to find myself and be alone and realize that I'm alone , no mather who I sorround myself with . I'm always alone , and I've grown to have the feeling of lonelyness and melancholy feeling . I love music that makes me feel like that . I love feeling that sad feeling because I was forced to feel it , and attaching myself  to music really does that for me . So I became this guy knowing that I'd been that way my whole life in growing up and making a band that became really popular and succesuful and remaining an underdog . We're so gigantic but we're still this band that people and critics want to hate .
…I keep asking myself , how did we became popular , what's going on ? Am I touching audience that was always the underdog ?
That's where I'm coming from . That's me . Can I just keep it to that ? No . When I go on stage , when I talk to fast and when I make music , I deal with prejudice , I deal with everyone . You know what ? Maybe you are that asshole in high school and maybe you might f-kin' come to your f-kin' senses , witch I doubt . Your gonna be that f-kin' asshole your whole life , but maybe this might turn you around .

Fred's way

…Most of my stuff's about these types of things you feel when you experience pain . Whether it's from a girl f-king your best friend for two years and you don't know it . Then him talking to you , and your like "Well that's killer" and then that feeling . Or the feeling of someone not taking you for a face value , talking shit about you and stabbing you in the back . All these things I experience in life are what I sing about . It's killer that a lot of the fans are identifying because of that---even though they like something popular , they still feel like it's an underground thing to them .
It's not underground and we've lost a lot of fans because we became popular . I go on the internet every day and they're "F-k you , you f-kin' suck , you're a sellout "
I'm going "God , if I could just sit you here with me and hang out with you for an hour you wouldn't even think it . And you know what ? I do live in Los Angeles . You know what ? I am a businessman but communicating that to a sixteen year old who is literally impossible .
I go out in the crowd every single time before the show . I walk out there and lately they notice me move , but before I could go stand out there . Then I would go "What's up , man?" . I'm just waiting in the seat and they're like feyes bugging out , and they're looking at their friends eventually and doeing that thing you know . What if  I was sitting at a Suicidal show and Mike Muff came up to me and he said "So , what's up?"
I'd be like "Dude , you're right here , no way !" f-kin' I'd freak out .  

Girl trouble !

…When we starded getting a little bit popular , after "Faith" I was realizing that no girls were at the shows . I was like "You know what's bad about this ? I like girls"
…So I did a ladies night tour . I toured the contry and let the girls in for free . It was called ladies night in Cambodias . Cambodias because Apocalypse now is one of my favorite movies .
… The dudes came , and all of the girls came . Then the girls starded "Well maybe these guys don't hate women" . Just because I had the word "bitch" on my first record . "Why do you wanna play that game bitch ?" it was a song called "Stuck" , about a women who managed us .
I learned not to use that word because everybody was like "Oh god , this male chauvinist f-kin' pig !" . It turned into this huge thing .
I said "F-k you guys , you're so wrong !" . I don't hate women . I've had bad relationships . I've been the innocent guy that was f-ked over because I'm very gullible when it comes to that part of my life . I feel that I've got everything intact but the love life . So you guys are wrong . I've got to prove it .

Fred is vice president of Interscope Records  

…I've done all the marketing , developing videos , everything for my band . When I came into the record label , I said "I'm going to do everything myself . I know how we should be seen , I know how we should marketed . I want to do it all ."
They said "Well , okay" . So I did it all , and Limp Bizkit blew up from the bottom to what you see in the magazines , the store displays , everything is me . It showed them a lot on the business side , and then I got offered a job at the Det Jam/Island . They wanted me to come and run there company and start a rock department. I thought that'd be great because I really think there's some bad rock out there and we could find some good bands .
So I told Interscope "I'm still on your label , but I'm going to go over here and work"
They were like "I don't know"
I said "Well , unless you want to let me run A&R here and be vice president ."
They go "We don't have a vice president , we have a president and a chairman"
I go " Well your gonna have one now , or I'm going to work somewhere else" . It worked . So they did it.
It feels amazing , but it's cool because I'm just a guy that's an artist and I think like an artist . I have business skills , but I think creatively . Everything is about the material . Everything . The dollar signs aren't fazing me . If  I do a mivie , I want it to be a great movie . That's it .

Fred's first film .

…I had a piece of material come across my plate called Runt , that somebody else wrote , about an underdog in high school . The movie is about an underdog who gets picked on a lot . He likes this girl who is the girlfriend of  one of the guys on the footbal team . [The underdog's] an artist , he's just really innocent . She's unhappy , he slips her picture he drew of her . Her boyfriend finds it , they beat the shit out of him and stick him in a thash can. The guy retaliates . It turns into one thing after another . It's really a cool movie . It's a learning experience , but it's a caracter study .

Why this movie isn't going to suck ?  

David Fincher , who directed Seven , The Game and Fight Club , he's producting . It's really a significant thing for me to be working with him . This guy Michael told David Fincher "This guy Fred Durst wants to direct Runt , and he wants to be involved with you".
David Fincher was like "I'll meet the guy , but yeah , whatever" . So we met and the chemistry was unbeliveble . I was going "I'm just gonna be me" . The only reason I'm liked and hated in this whole world is fo being me . The critics hate it and our fans love it . As long as you stay the same person you were when you started out , you'll be that person at the end , with or without money .
David Fincher worked out killer and he took me . The greatest part of it is , for two and a half months he took me in his office and told me how to direct . Broke the script down page by page , shut by shut , it always turned into a killer conversation just about whatever . Then we got into the script an hour later and he'd say "Okay , today you gotta go home and rent Lawrence Of Arabia !"
I go "I already have  it ."
"No , no , you go buy it again , you relive the experience , and you look at this scene and tell me what it did for you" . He made me go through  all these different movies , from Badlands to Chinatown , just for shots , just for themes---he opened my mind so much and taught me so much . That's something that doesn't go to happen to a  lot of people .  
I know that once I can direct a film , I can touch people . They're gonna go "This is a great movie!" . That's all I really want .

Fred just got back from the Big Day Out tour in Australia , where he encountered some problems with the promoter , and safety of everyone involved in  the event was being jeopardized . So Limp Bizkit left the tour early . He[Fred] tells me what he said to the promoter .

Fred :    
"We can't do this next show unless you have better security : a T barricade and a barricade to break it ." He[the promoter] gave me the same shit about  "I've been doing this for ten years" and all this stuff . We get there and we go to check and see where we're gonna play . He hierd a hole bunch more people---no barricade , same thing . So we go on stage and start to play , and the place is insane , Sidney , sixty-thoussant , going crazy.
All of a sudden , right after the second song , people start to fall and get crushed . We pulled people out and stoped for five minutes . That's a long time at a concert . So we stoped and got everybody up , and we're looking at the promoter , and said "Man , this is f-ked up ."
So we start playing again . Insane . After another song  , people fall in and got crushed . We stoped for five minutes , trying to pull a girl out that was under everybody . Crushed . We said we're not playing . We're done . The cops made us play . They said "If you quit , there's going to be a riot" . It started rioting . After ten minutes people started bugging . Fiveteen , it was going insane . Growing crazy . The cop sais "You have to play!" . So we played . We got the girl out , we finished the show , and we left .
…She died a couple of days later . Her parents had the option to pull the plug on her . She never came back . We told the promoter . We sent him letters after the first show , from our promoters , from our agents , from everybody . So we totally were trying to make this guy change . His people quit because they kept trying to upgrade the security and got nowhere---either that or they've fired everybody .
But they have all their complains filed . So they have this huge thing against the promoter . Everyone's been trying to make the security better for this year's [show] , and then a girl died at Limp Bizkit . That's not worth it . Nobody's life is worth loseing because your trying to save some money . It turned into this huge thing . We kept one of our men there to stay with the girl and her parents . Big Day Out never called the girl , the parents , nothing ---the promoter , nobody . Nothing . The parents were really grateful for us . They know it's not our falut . The council , the guvernement , they're totally trying to go after this guy now , and they're on Limp Bizkit's side .

Life in the fast lame ?

…There's no how to be a rock star---take the life and learn everything as you go . That book doesn't exist . All we have it's VH1 Behind The Music to [learn from] and El True Hollywood Stories , and these are what we don't do---but then everybody's stories are different . I don't do drugs . I'm not in a desastrous place . I'm a lonley guy, and I'm depressed in my own ways because I just live life that way . I'm a person of analety . I realize how alone I am , even though I can fill my house with all these people and have all these things . But you know what? That's not gonna help me . I have yet to find anyone out here besides Jordan and Jeff that I really even consider somebody that just would come in here , chill , and talk .
I don't like hanging out with people that I don't belive in . I belive in myself , and I look through people. I see through them like a piece of transparent paper . I can't be bullshitted . I can't take any shit from anybody , and I just fell like that's why I hardly have any friends .


       




CRITICS


Limp Bizkit and Fred Durst make up one terrible band. Fred durst is just a loser who thinks he's a black "gansta" from the inner city(or eminem, same difference). I don't understand how you can take anything this pathedic man says seriously. He trys to act so extremely tough and whatnot by swearing 5-6 times in one line and screaming of violence and how he "...packs a chainsaw..." GIVE ME A BREAK. This guy's a wuss. First off, what does he accomplish by dropping the "Fuck" word constantly in almost every line more than once. It gets sad after a while. Have of the time he just throws the word in to make himself seem tough even though the word makes no sense what-so-ever in what he's trying to say. Hey Fred...IT'S NOT WORKING. Also, what's the deal with him doing it all for a "nookie." The only way i can see him doing this is that if a nookie symbolizes money. The sellout is only on MTV every other day promoting another one of his poor quality product that were made for "the nookie"(or money because he knows his fans will purchase and love any of the trash he puts out). The guy isn't even putting out new material. When an artis has to put 2 versions of 1 song on a cd, they're running out of material. Also, i have to comment on Fred calling Scott Stapp from creed egotystical. The only one with a big ego is fred himself. He was angry because he and his band didn't get the best slot at a concert. Selfish baby fred bashes the lead singer from creed(who i'm not even much of a big fan of)who got a better time slot than limp. Let me end on this note for all of you whining babies who can't handle the opinions of someone with different ideas than you, all the profsnity filled messages in the guestbook is making me lose more and more respect (of the little i already had) for limp bizkit and their fans.


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